Nicholas86, I'd love to take a look at the file (my e-mail is chrisdmd@aol.com). I remember a while back, when C1 came out, there was a tutorial where you used the space shuttle model and added flames to it. It looked great but I can't find the tutorial anywhere. I know in Cinema 4D you can simulate flames by using a light (omni) as the particle object in a particle emitter. The results are very good. I tried to figure out how to do this in C3, but can't. In C4D, they also have some nice animated flame and fire textures that when mapped onto a plane or other object are very convincing. I'n sure it could be done in C3 this way, it's just you need the animated fire texture. Thanks