Well folks, sorry to say I haven't really been that successful either. I'm very amazed at the fire I see in the cartoons which are on. The fire looks so dang realistic that I did some research. Lots of 3D'rs use actual footage of flames (or images). Now is that cheating or what!!!! Let me play with it and I'll see what I can cook up but no promises. -Kix

-Kix