I'm impressed. I've been experimenting in the vertex modeler the last couple of days in C2 to try to get back into Carrara, but it'll be a while before I get up to anything as complicated with it. Somehow I exploded the vertexes in my first attempt. but I'm doing better with it now. I think you've achieved the irredescent look very well. A lot depends on how realistic you want to get him but I think he looks fine as he is. The eyes don't look right somehow, but not too bad. - TJ