Jval, I agree. I am not suggesting so much that they get a whole new product as much as I am suggesting they incorporate the ID interface and some of it's modelling tools, along with C3 renderer etc... The ease of the interface has always been widely accepted and Carrara is much criticized (ie. 3D World)for theirs. One of the great things I loved about ID is that it is simple yet if you dig deeper there is real power to be had. I think C3 is the same to an extent but ID is more user friendly (IMO). I would love to see C4 redesign the interface and workflow alla ID with alot of C3's other great features. If Eovia doesn't own ID than how does one get a hold of ownership. Wouldn't you love to see it like a Blender-type app? I would.