just an aside...I've been using Carrara/Ray Dream since Ray Dream Designer 4 was released by Fractal, and am truly torn in getting rid of this. Actually have a lot of cash invested, as I upgraded through every version from RDD through C1.1.... Leaving a product that got me involved in this community is tough to do...having met plenty of fine folk, especially on the Yahoo list, which I have been a part of since many years ago when it was elsewhere. So good bye to you guys...of course I'll be around on the Poser, Vue, Bryce, and a few other lists....

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854