Nearly every day I see people at auctions selling copies of Lightwave and 3DS max for extremely low prices and I hate it. I will never buy hack-ware because of lack of support, and with lightwave owners, which I am sure is the same with 3DSmax, there are Newtek Sponsored User groups all over the country in most of the more densely populated states. The Benefits of buying a liscensed copy of one of the higher priced 3D solutions go far beyond the pleasure of just having a great piece of software.