Wrinkles, creases, crows feet...all sound good to me. I was actually just speaking of a few bags around the eye and some wrinkles at the outer corners...pretty much what you were thinking. THe problem with the eyes is that they seem to buldge...this is due more to they're size than to the lids but the lids can help hides this if you add a bit of meat too them. Just select every other row of points encercling the eye and move them foward and out some. This will give you "quickie" bags. Noticed this on my earlier head attempt. Like Logan said, don't linger without reason. So, if you're happy with it, move on to the next bigger and better model. By the way, I have a video card that can cope with WINGS now (just upgraded from 8MB built in ATI to a 32MB NVidia). I downloaded the latest update but haven't a clue how to get a 4 view set up (Top, Front, Right, Persp.) any help on that would be great ....not to get too off topic though.