Right, it's the brushed look I'm going after and no matter what function I try, I get either a lousy something or other, or nothing resembling the look of brushed stainless steel... I should have added that part, sorry... :) thanks for all your responses... I'll try some of these suggestions In this particular case, it would be a metal object resting on a table... I haven't quite decided what it'll be, but the metal has that brushed stainless steel effect, I still can't quite get with the functions...