Nicholas86, I know that the geometry is changed, but I thought that only happended when the object was rendered. I think the following statement from Eric's site indicates the geometry modification can be extracted to a mesh object, so that it is not a rendered effect anymore: "Convert Deformed Object to Mesh changes a deformed object to a simple primitive so it can be duplicated again and again without the deformer recalculating for each instance." I can clarify this with Eric. Mark, Do you mean you have rendered Anything Grooves objects through VectorStyle? Thanks Guys, Chris