Poser 5 is fine. I really think a number of constant P5 critics aren't going to be happy until they've managed to bad-mouth Curious Labs into oblivion. I especially love the people who regularly complain about Poser 5 even thought they don't yet own it. And, as Jceaver points out, the whole subject of this thread is wrong. The upgrade price has NOT gone down $100.00. This is another example of more rumor-mongering that serves no useful purpose. -jjsemp