C&D Closing

tammymc · January 30, 2002 6:10 pm

We regret to announce that the C&D forum will be closed effective January 30, 2002 at 10 pm CST (GMT-6). The Renderosity Team is committed to providing a positive environment, and to working with the community to advance the knowledge and skills of our members. This decision will not affect any of the other forums. However, we ask that you take a minute to review the Terms Of Service agreement so that you are fully aware of your responsibilities as a member of this community. It is our goal to maintain a comfortable environment where members can learn, share, and grow in an enjoyable atmosphere. Thank you The Team at Renderosity

Article Comments

VirtualSite ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Well, I cant say Im surprised. 70 000 members -- someones gonna get their nose out of joint about something on an almost hourly basis. And I sure did my part to make things uncomfortable in there, and I apologize to you guys if anything I might have done contributed to this. Its a silly world sometimes, eh?

Curio ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Well, I think there needs to be a place to air concerns, and stuff - the trouble is alot of people ended up LIVING there. I think (and perhaps you already have plans for it) what is needed is a small forum for complaints and the like, and a general hang out - still I suppose thats what the Tavern is supposed to be...well, maybe now C&D's gone they (we) will all head over there. At least the argument "well, it IS complaint and debate...." can't be used there...

Maira ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

If someone wants to vent, he'll find a place to do it. If C&D is gone, he'll do it in another forum. At least with C&D everybody knew where people went to vent and if they didn't like it, they just didn't read this forum. Are you sure this decision is going to help?

Poppi ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

This is so sad. I heard about a movement to close it down when SteffyZZ had her troubles. I'm not one to cut of my nose to spite my face, so, am not gonna claim that I will quit the site. However, with the server problems, overcrowded poser gallery, and, my feelings that have developed over my almost year long time, here....well, 3dcommune looks a lot cooler than it did a year ago. so sad that you all finally sold out, completely. of course, the recent pony nonsense didn't help, but, that would have died out. nothing like leaders who cave under pressure. damn!!!

Rhialto ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

This doesn't really make sense. Renderosity has a TOS. Last I heard, C&D wasn't exempt from that TOS. If the TOS wasn't enforced in C&D thats the fault of the admins. All this will do is scatter the mischievous element to other forums, forcing the admins to scatter their efforts to keep Renderosity pure from controversy by enforcing the TOS. Better to keep C&D as a sort of Colditz/Camp X-Ray so as to keep all the brats in one spot.

PJF ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Why do you guys put on the entertainment just as I need to go to bed? If I'm late for work tomorrow, I'll sue.

TwoBeans ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

"The Renderosity Team is committed to having our way. You will not disagree with us. We are the Alpha and the Omega. We are God. We have spoken. So mote it be." http://www.atomicmule.com/legume/the_end.html

Richabri ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I enjoyed the C&D as much as any other part of Renderosity and will be sad to see it go. It's too bad that some members did not understand the responsibilty that went along with their actions and their posts.

CharlieBrown ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Aw geez. There goes 2/3rds of the time I spend here. But since I'm not a "purchasing member" - the rare time I see something in the marketplace I want, either I have no immediate use for it so don't buy it, or it's priced too high for me to justify the purchase (same generally applies at DAZ though...), so I guess my opinion doesn't mean much...

davo ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

well that's too bad folks, and I don't agree with the idea to close it down, it'll spill into another forum on a dialy basis, and you'll have to lock every single post that sounds remotely like a complaint, that's a lot of work and you're opening a whole new can of worms for yourself. The C&D was a regular stop for me, I'm truely going to miss it. But to be honest, I have missed the C&D and participating in it for a long time now, there are some people who have ruined it with their overbearing sillyness and whining. I hereby give the finger to all those who ruined the C&D, you know who you are. I agree with Curio, there are some people who just LIVE THERE, thanks a lot you guys.

Jackie ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I don't think this will work out at all...I'd have to agree with Maira, etc...It will spill out everywhere else.

Dendras ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I see this as the beginning of the end: Remove the saftey valve and the pot is certain to blow, but I imagine that this will manifest itself as a myriad of multiple petty squabbles that spring up all over the site. Perhaps if the site admin had applied the TOS evenly instead of selectively, or instead of sweeping things heatedly under the rug things might have remained in balance. Then again, this is not my site. Do with it as you will. I forsee changes for the Poser community that bode ill for all.

wgreenlee1 ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

wow whats next? closing the terragen forum from lack of posts? closing the poser gallery from too many naked vickys with helmets? closing the blah blah because of blah blah blah? let me guess...if this was helping to make money for 'osity then it would stay right?

Wadus ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I think this is a bad idea also. I dont post much to the C&D forum but I lurk alot and like to read all the rants, moans and groans. But like others have said all this will accomplish is spreading into the other forums.

Lemurtek ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Brrrraaaaazzzzzzillllll....da dada dada da... Regards- Lemurtek

Dreamwalker ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I think you are making one very bad mastake in closing C and D. True, things may get out of hand once in a while, but in all it is realy a great plac bitch, moan, or even laugh at each other. It is a great place to relax and express what is on your mind, or what you fell is on someone elses mind. All in all I will miss it.

whoopdat ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I'm curious what will come of everything now. Things just may get interesting. Welcome to Happyosity. No really, we're all happy. No complaints here. Those aren't allowed. /me grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch.

kjlintner ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

This is a shame. A really bad shame. I spend a lot of money here and would like to have this at least put to a vote. Didn't we once vote on whether to ban or not to ban a user? Couldn't we have voted to keep or not keep a forum? First I get a chargeback on one of my items sold at the store and now one of my favorite forums is yanked because of a few humourless people? Well when they all spread to the other forums...

februus ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Nobody likes to lose a good paying customer. Especially one you don't have to please.-The Team

kayjay97 ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I haven't been with Rosity very long but I loved going to the C&D forum. I lurked a lot although I did post to one "debate" which all in all it turned out pretty good. Why are you closing it? If you look back even though many argued or what ever in other debates they side with each other. I have been to gallery postings and some of the comments made there should had banned that member who made it. At least at the C&D it was all in one place.

Maygen ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

For the most part I avoid the C&D like the plague. I can however see its use and understand why some people will be sad to see it go. All that said, good riddance. Maybe now some of you who enjoy making images to mock the rest of the members, and creating clone accounts to vote for those images will take the free time you have to actually use your talent for peices worthy to be posted at Renderosity. Some of you get so caught up in diliberately angering the rest of us that you lose track of what a 3D communtiy is for. As I was saying...GOOD RIDDANCE!

Mixednutt ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

At the same time, the renderosity team decided it needs to be closed, and I have confidence that good will come from this. The closing of the C&D forum does not mean the end of complaints, just the end of it being easy to whine and moan about nothing at all. More power to team renderosity!

Tempus Fugit ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

At the top of this page, it declares that this is a community. Deleting images and shutting down sounding boards diminishes us all and makes a mockery of that word. I've frequented Renderosity a lot more with all of Legume's recent postings, but knowing everything has now been sanitized for my protection will reduce my participation in the gallery and in messages. Why not let users take the heat for thier own images instead of punishing everyone by taking away the right to make your own choice. I mean, really, this "community" can't even debate things among the membership now? Deleting images is a bad call. Deleting forums makes it worse. Maybe I should just go and delete my whole damn gallery and forget about this place...

PJF ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Bored now.

Spiritbro77 ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Im just a newbie, been coming here about a year. I visit as many gallerys and sites as I can to learn as much as I can about art. Untill recently, I had never really visited the forums. Then I was invited to the 2d forum by Trevor,so I would stop in once in a while to read the posts, when he was let go is when I started going to C&D to find out information about that, a lot of good that did,lol To make a long story even longer, I started checking out C&D and found it to be highly entertaining reading. Healthy debate keeps the mind free. Healthy debate isnt always friendly, it is often times heated, sometimes even juvinile, But it is needed just the same. Although I havent been going to C& D long I will miss having a place to go for a good laugh, or read a really juicy thread. Is it really so bad to disagree or create controversy? Is Controversy so bad? It seems to me that art has been the center of controversy since man first scribbled on cave walls. Today our Secretary of Defense had a couple of statues covered up because they were scantily clad women( images of justice)one bare breast involved lol. Thats an example of controversy being avoided.Peace

XENOPHONZ ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

I'm glad to see it go. I think that this is an improvement. Wise decision.

Spiritbro77 ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Healthy debate keeps the mind free, healthy debate isnt always friendly, it is often time heated and sometimes even juvinile, but it IS needed.Is controversy so bad? It seems to me that art has been the center of controversy since the dawn of man.Can a forum fold simply because of a little pink pony? Today the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America had two Statues covered up. The statues are two scantily clad women(images of Justice) one bare breast was involved lol. This is an example of controversy being avoided.Peace

Tempus Fugit ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Screw it. I was going to go to bed, but now I'm going to go scrub my gallery and cease participation in the messages instead. There is no community here. It's a sham.

Mixednutt ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

Where I live, we have a problem with anarchists. There is a line to be drawn when freedoms are being compromised, or when justice is being protected. Imagine a world run by anarchists. You wouldn't really be able to place your comfort or trust in anything. Imagine Renderosity overrun by people just trying to stir up a reaction. It wouldn't be any place I would want to contribute. Renderosity isn't tipping the scales in either direction with this move. They aren't compromising our communities freedoms to post, or letting it be over-run with trouble makers, just keeping the equilibrium. They are trying to keep this place civil. My question: Is eliminating the place that kept the trouble makers coralled the most appropriate decision?

KiDAcE ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 30 January 2002

HAHAHA.....nobody can read all that junk posted by people to disrupt things...

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