Please do not reply to this post this is just a tutorial
Congratulations newhere! This is very clever.
Looking at your video source, I'd have said that you'd have all sorts of trouble-- the video is very cluttered, not what I'm used to seeing as mocap source. But your end result is extremely good, at a fraction of the cost, (not to mention the hassle), of traditional mocap solutions.
The only thing that I'd add is: Why not put some markers on the actor, so you record the null positions as you move? Just get a tight fitting pair of white long johns, and put red dots at the key null locations. . . this will make the process go more quickly in Lightwave.
Your technique is very impressive. One of the biggest problems I have with traditional automated mocap is the noisiness -- markers overlapping and "jumping" to illogical places. Your way involves more work, but will be much more robust to "bad data".
Again, thank you, this is very impressive.
Actually crocodilian i did try the long Johns thing.....it is just that when the postition point goes around corners of a person or thing, it does not pick it up as clearly as it would if you were to manually do it. Of course there is always the solution of buying the Equipment ($20,000 to $50,000 worth **sigh**)
Thanks to you and to all who have read my tutorials :)
haven't commented yet, a little beyond my budget and skills.
It IS an interesting train of thought though. Pent had a tutorial on his site suggesting a very similar method.
I find myself limited to NO video cam, and only me as a model.
I severly doubt I can use mocap like this to help me (an fat old guy) to animate a more sexy tall woman. Nor is my old fat body likely to provide any nija moves or dance moves. <grin>
Well it depends on what you are going for. With MoCap it doesn't matter how you look, it's about what you are trying to get done as far as animated movement...that's all. If you can somewhat be an actor then you can do all kinds of animations with any kind of character (well......humanoid anyway).
true, but proportions and ability DO matter.
Let us face it, I couldn't do martial arts 15 years ago when I was fit for service, I can't do them now.
Usings videos of OTHERS may work, gawd knows Youtube has enough stuff there.
Of course, my needs for martial arts are far from here. If i DO do my space opera, near the end there IS a sword fight. (yes, I know, There are logical reasons for it. In the end, the villian cheats, and thus does himself in.)
Now I 'could' video tape two people who KNOW what they are doing, and work from that.
Or I could work manually and have less risk of people getting hurt.
(Mind you, neither of my characters are 'experts' which is part of why it works)
I have taken a break from animating characters for a while anyway. Working on my space scene and gettings some insight there.
lol..point well taken. As far as proportions goes......the video that i recorded was like a million times bigger then the actual character. All of my characters i make are 500mm tall (habit don't ask why). i had to resize the video down to fit my characters before i start rotoscoping.
Heyas folks. I just wanted to chime in. This is a great topic and I commend you on your efforts newhere. It's better than anything I've ever come up with.
Anyway I have a solution that doesn't cost 20k. It cost 5k which is affordable in most respects.
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Mocap is the only thing keeping my project from going forward. I've got money aside and a team of people in my sight (actors) at a local acting, dance school, and gymnastics academy who are interested in what I'm doing. I plan to make my purchase next year after I pay my taxes which is usually around the end of March.
Believe me when I tell you that children are by far much easier to work with as far as flexiblity. Pre-teen children who are active are often very flexible, and those in the camps are general receptive to guidance. The coaches here want their kids to be involved in projects like these to allow them to expand their engagement beyond the sport. Just remember to gain support of their parents. Atheletes generally don't mind the gimp suit.
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